Based out of Templemore, Tipperary, this unit styled themselves "Tudor's Toughs".
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B Company - "Tudor's Toughs"
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 Peter Mc RIC |
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Posts: 468 25-Jul-2010 11:03 AM Inspector-General |
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Peter Mc RIC |
The same thing - only different! | #1 | ||
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Posts: 479 29-Jul-2010 9:23 PM Inspector-General |
A Christmas Card from 'B' Coy. Logo of crossed 'T's' for 'Tudor's Toughs' - the motto 'First in the Field' may refer to them being one of the first units deployed.
  by very kind permission of Ballyroughan |
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Frank7372 |
Company nickname | #2 | ||
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Posts: 2 16-Aug-2010 12:29 AM |
That info about the company nickname is fascinating. I always wondered whether the term 'Tudor's Toughs' was coined during or after the conflict and am delighted to discover that it applied to a particular company.
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Peter Mc RIC |
B Coy Mess Wall badge | #3 | ||
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Posts: 503 17-Aug-2010 9:45 PM Inspector-General |
This is an actual photograph of a mural painted on the wall of 'B' Company's Mess. It was photographed by W.E. Crewe (see F Coy) and states "B. coy Badge, mess wall".
They obviously had a budding artist in their ranks - this card brings together the Harp & Crown badge, a pint of porter, references to the pay (a pound note), grenades, guns, and police whistles. The royal flush presumably is a nod to a favourite pastime in the canteen. The motto means 'Second to None'.  With thanks to Ballyroughan
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Posts: 8 18-Aug-2010 10:02 PM |
Absolutely fascinating mural. It's worth adding that the pay was quickly increased to £1 1s or a guinea a day as a recruitment letter from Tudor published in the Times in 1920 quoted that amount.
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Member myself.emergencyservices |
B Company Headquarters | #5 | ||
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Posts: 1 18-Dec-2010 1:17 PM |
Hi all, I have some information about the B Coy. HQ in Templemore and how it came to be destroyed. In May 1921 Commandant Séan Scott of the local IRA received a message from Michael Collins informing him that B company were about to vacate the mansion of Sir John Carden atTemplemore Abbey, which they had commandeered in 1920. Collins directed that Templemore Abbey should be destroyed at all costs, ‘even at the loss of men’.Scott was surprised to learn that the Abbey was to be vacated as he had received no local intelligence to that effect. However, because of the implicit confidence which he had in Collins preparations were made to burn the mansion. The Abbey had been turned into a formidable HQ by ADRIC and was also an important symbolic target for the local IRA. as it was the former residence of the Carden family, notoriously unpopular landlords in the Templemore area. Scott was correct to have faith in the information supplied by Collins as shortly after the intelligence was received, and much to the relief of the I.R.A the Auxies were observed loading their lorries and leaving the Abbey. That night a party of fifteen IRA men collected thirty gallons of petrol from various premises in the area and broke into the mansion. The premises were set ablaze with some Volunteers receiving injuries in the process. Within a few hours the entire premises had been razed to the ground’. Some locals told me that a lot of furniture and other items were taken from the Abbey before it was burnt, so there may be stuff lying in attics around the town! All that remains today of the Abbey are some of the outbuildings and the gate lodge, which is near the Garda College, just before the right turn onto the Thurles road as you come from Borrisoleigh. |
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Dez |
B Company wall mural | #6 | ||
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Posts: 12 22-Dec-2010 6:15 AM |
Does anyone know what the location of "B" Company was, when the Mess wall mural was photographed by W.E. Crewe, who by the way was never a member of "B" Company. I have tried to figure out the signature of the artist, without success, has anyone else been able to do so, it could be the same artist for the Christmas card. On the mural, below the bottle of Bass, is a skull and crossbones, this symbol has been associated with "Q" Company as a headgear badge. I am looking for specific dates for the arrival and departure of "B" Company at Templemore Abbey. An advertisment in the Tipperary Star newspaper, on Saturday the 1st January 1921, described an upcoming sale of the contents of the Abbey, by auction on the 4, 5, & 6th of January 1921. As the sale was to take place at the Abbey, starting each day at noon, presumably this took place before the Auxiliaries arrived to take over the premises.
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ballyroughan |
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Posts: 94 15-Jan-2011 9:00 PM |
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Posts: 15 8-Feb-2011 6:04 AM |
ballyroughan,
Sorry it took me so long to acknowlege your reply, not paying attention I guess. I found your remark about "B" Coy. being at Newcastle - West, really interesting. Gen. Crozier mentioned (in Ireland for Ever) that he sent a Company to Limerick as one of the first nine Companies put into the field. I thought that "B" Coy. might have fitted for Limerick, due to my being unable to find any information on their early deployment, this is what led to my query. Sligo is often mentioned in connection with "B" Coy., I have yet to find any information that confirms this. I dont usually like using Gen. Crozier as a reference as I find his memory of events quite muddled at times. |
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Posts: 1 15-Apr-2011 9:53 PM |
james D.Leahy & Alice leahy are my Granparents an I am looking for any further info anyone might have
I do know that alice died in london in 1961 and had a son Stephen (not maried) died in the 1990s I never met any of them |
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ballyroughan |
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Posts: 185 17-Apr-2011 9:41 PM |
Hi.
I knew Stephen Leahy, (known to his friends as Mike or Maurice), for nearly forty years as friend and collector of English, plus Irish historical items, he was also very well known in collecting circle's for his research of British medals. If you would like futher information on him or what i may have on his family,you can contact me through Yuku. John.
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Posts: 2 24-Apr-2011 7:37 PM |
Hi John
Great to get that info about Steaphen. I never met him but he was my uncle & he never married, he left Ireland in 1924 with his mother & sister Emily (Lala) who married a man called Healy I believe. My father never talked about them. I wounder did you know Alice or Lala?, or would you know what happened to his collection ? I do hope it went to someone who will share it with others,Alice was my granmother and I would love to know where she lived or is buried Thanks Maurice Leahy |
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ballyroughan |
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Posts: 192 29-Apr-2011 10:28 PM |
Hi, Maurice,
Mike,sold parts of his collection off, to private collectors and in auction, over the last few years of his life, the residue being sold at the, London auction house of, Dix, Noonan, & Webb,on 25th November, 1998, the Catalogue has, a Tribute-Obituary from one of his oldest friends,which i feel you would find of interest, you should still be able to order a copy? I have met some of the Healy 's over the years to whom he was close, i don't know where his mother is buried but can find out. if you want further information use your Yuku account,and leave me a message, as i feel B Company Aux Div. an inappropriate topic, or site, for discussion of a collectors life and Family, so i will delete my postings on Mike after one week. John.
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Posts: 934 5-Jun-2011 8:51 PM Inspector-General |
Following their withdrawal from Tipperary B Company moved to Castle Saunderson, Belturbet, County Cavan.
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