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Peter Mc RIC	Firearms of the Irish Police		Lead	[-]
Posts: 328 14-Mar-2010 12:28 AM Inspector-General	A Lovell's pattern 1842 Constabulary percussion carbine, as issued to the Irish Revenue Police. A .65" percussion constabulary carbine, 42½" overall, barrel 26¾" with traces of Tower proofs and with Lovell's spring bayonet catch below muzzle, the lock engraved with crowned "VR" and "Tower 1848", full walnut stock with broad arrow and "BO" and 1851 marked on butt, regulation brass mounts, the butt plate tang engraved "RP 736", original steel ramrod, sling swivels. Holland & Sons stamped to underside of butt. GWO & C (barrel and ramrod moderately pitted overall and cleaned, light pitting and wear to lock, some bruising to stock) Details of Lock Revenue Police Stamp to butt Peter Mc Please visit my sites - The Royal Irish Constabulary Forum and Images of the RIC Last Edited By: Peter Mc RIC 15-Mar-2010 8:56 PM. Edited 8 times.
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Peter Mc RIC	Winchester Model 1897 Riot Shotgun	#1	[url]	[-]
Posts: 329 14-Mar-2010 7:26 PM Inspector-General	A Winchester 1897 5-shot riot gun; adapted in 1920 to a 30" barrel and with RIC markings. This particular example was captured during a raid on a police barracks. Auxiliaries in Cork, 1920. One Cadet holding a riot gun. This Auxiliary in Dublin was photographed in January 1921 Peter Mc Please visit my sites - The Royal Irish Constabulary Forum and Images of the RIC Last Edited By: Peter Mc RIC 30-Apr-2010 4:55 PM. Edited 5 times.
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Peter Mc RIC	Another Irish Revenue Police Musket	#2	[url]	[-]
Posts: 333 15-Mar-2010 6:28 PM Inspector-General	A .65 Lovells pattern 1842 Constabulary Per carbine, 26" brl, profusely ordnance marked at breech, full walnut stock with B.O. Storekeepers stamp to butt dated 1851. Brass mounts buttcap stamped RP 862. Matching stamped ramrod. Lovells spring bayonet catch, lock struck with Tower crown VR cypher dated 1847. Number '39' and 'I. Johnson' stamped to lock backplate; indicating the Party number for Gort, Galway; later transferred to Killaloe, Clare. Holland & Sons stamped to underside of butt. VG condition with ex. Sharp untouched stock, much original blue to brl. This was James Holland (later & Son) who were trading in East London in the Minories area close to all the London Ordnance Contractors in the period 1825 to 1868. James Holland took his son into the trade name for the years 1855-68. This ties in nicely with the Ordnance Contract date for this carbine. I. Johnson would have been the setter-up of the carbine, i.e., the subcontractor who put it together. Peter Mc Please visit my sites - The Royal Irish Constabulary Forum and Images of the RIC
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Peter Mc RIC	A Lovell's pattern carbine to the Constabulary of Ireland	#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 336 17-Mar-2010 12:48 PM Inspector-General	An 1842 pattern carbine. 26" brl of .65" calibre, full walnut stock with brass mounts, butt plate tang engraved C7902. Lock with Tower VR cypher dated 1844. Faint BO mark to butt with 1844 stamp. Number '41' marked to left side of butt. (In the Revenue Police this would correspond to Shrade in Donegal). This pattern of carbine was designed by G. Lovell for issue to the police. This specimen with C prefixed number on the butt was issued to the Irish Constabulary. Peter Mc Please visit my sites - The Royal Irish Constabulary Forum and Images of the RIC
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Peter Mc RIC	A Martini Henry carbine as issued to the RIC.	#4	[url]	[-]
Posts: 337 20-Mar-2010 4:18 PM Inspector-General	A Martini Henry Mark II carbine of .45/577 calibre, with Royal Irish Constabulary markings (R.I.C. 2457). These were shortened versions of the Martini Henry rifle, now sporting 21 inch barrels. Action stamped with the Enfield VR cipher and dated 1885. This model with an original wide black leather sling. The Martini Henry was introduced to the RIC around June 1899, with the final batch being issued to the Belfast police in June 1900. It replaced the Snider carbine, of which 12,000 were recalled. As part of the cost saving practices for which the Irish authorities were renowned, the bayonets previously used with the Snider rifles were also recalled, shipped to England to be rebushed, then finally re-fitted to the Martinis and re-numbered at the Constabulary Armoury. The Martini Henry saw only a limited period of service with the RIC, being replaced by the Lee-Enfield carbine from 1904. RIC Musketry Instructors at Depot, circa 1902-04. Peter Mc Please visit my sites - The Royal Irish Constabulary Forum and Images of the RIC Last Edited By: Peter Mc RIC 20-Mar-2010 4:26 PM. Edited 1 time.
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Peter Mc RIC	The Lee Enfield RIC Carbine	#5	[url]	[-]
Posts: 378 1-May-2010 1:50 PM Inspector-General	Lee Enfield Mk1* carbines or Lee Metford cavalry carbines converted to Enfield rifling; 21 inch barrel, nose cap adapted to take the Pattern 88 knife bayonet. Small six-round magazines. 11,000 were supplied by the War Office as a free issue to the RIC between March 1904 and 1914. The new carbine was first issued to the Reserve Force at Dublin's Phoenix Park Depot in March 1904, before being distributed across the county forces. It replaced the Martini Henry carbine and at the same time replaced the existing long bayonet with the shorter knife pattern. By July 1904 the new rifle had been issued to counties Cavan and Carlow, and special training regarding the mechanism of the new rifles had been given to the RIC Musketry Instructors. In January 1905 Kings county had been supplied, and it was noted that Morris Tubes had been privately purchased by some of the men for practice. County Monaghan did not take possession of the carbines until April 1905. In September 1920 the RIC wrote to the Ministry of Munitions of War to communicate their desire to sell as scrap approximately 10,000 of these carbines, which were to be replaced with the modern SMLE rifle. They were shipped to the Royal Small Arms Factory at Enfield Lock around November or December 1920, together with around 1.1 million rounds of MkVI ammunition (ref: National Archives file MUN 4/6028). The estimate for scrappage was 5d each, or £1 if sold (for LE carbines) or 10 shillings each (the Lee Metford carbines). A Lee Metford cavalry carbine converted to Enfield rifling 21" brl with Enfield 5 groove rifling, military proofs at breech. Full walnut stock, nose cap with bayonet lug to accept the P88 knife bayonet. Butt with brass disk stamped 3.'04 R.I.C.1094. This specimen made up from a Lee Metford cavalry carbine which was re-barrelled. Vg o/a cond with high % finish, shooting grade bore. I have fired this weapon many times and it has a kick like a mule! A Lee Enfield carbine adapted for the RIC A LEC Mk1 Carbine, 20.5in barrel. EV11R Crown dated 1903, probably over* earlier stamp as barrel is Victorian. A Company of the RIC Reserve Force at Depot These constables are training in crowd control. The same men are pictured with fatigue caps and riot helmets, note the knee protectors worn. Peter Mc Please visit my sites - The Royal Irish Constabulary Forum and Images of the RIC
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