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Sergeant Posts: 1 2-Mar-2010 11:41 AM	I am trying to trace my Great Grandfather Peter Carroll who I believe was a member of the RIC in the late 1880s through to about 1905. He was then involved in some form of accident and as far as I know left the RIC when the rest of his family came to England. I know that he was stationed in Garristown Co Dublin in 1893-95 when my grandfather and great uncle were born.My great aunt the youngest of the three children was listed as born in Dublin. I know his wife came from Co Limerick and it is always said that he cam from the Co Tipperary Co Limerick border area although this maybe incorrect. I would be extremely grateful for any information on him.
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Posts: 320 3-Mar-2010 8:35 PM Inspector-General	Have you any idea of his age in 1905? Or better still date of birth? Peter Mc Please visit my sites - The Royal Irish Constabulary Forum and Images of the RIC
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C Lawton	Peter Carroll RIC	#2	[url]	[-]
Sergeant Posts: 2 8-Mar-2010 9:00 AM	Sadly no specific dates or ages however my Great Grandmother was born in 1861 and I believe he was around her age so between 1858 and 1864. Apologies for the lack of information but after they came to England and lived in very impoverished circumstances there seems to have been a concerted effort to forget the past. What I do know is that by the 1911 census by Great Grandmother lists herself as a widow so he must have died in the intervening period. Thank you for taking an interest.
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Peter Mc RIC		#3	[url]	[-]
Posts: 326 8-Mar-2010 11:12 AM Inspector-General	Given the rough birth date I'd suggest getting the records corresponding to service numbers 51468 and 53388. Let us know the results of this, particularly which counties the men served in. I may have further information regarding a serious injury sustained some years before he retired, and which may have been the cause of retirement. I know a Constable Carroll was pensioned from Garristown in 1895, however there was also a Sergeant Carroll at the same station. Without some more details from his service record it would be hard to provide any further info. Peter Mc Please visit my sites - The Royal Irish Constabulary Forum and Images of the RIC
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Sergeant Posts: 3 8-Mar-2010 1:39 PM	Peter Family legend has it that Peter Carroll was shot in the head whilst guarding the Lord Lieutenant of Ireland at sometime in his career. The wound did not kill him though, but made him somewhat confused and absent minded which grew worse with time. I know that attacks on the RIC were mercifully rare in the late 19th century so I have always taken what has been said with a pinch of salt. His wife Kate Heffernan who came from a wealthy Limerick family was almost abandoned by her own family for marrying a member of the RIC which meant when things became very difficult for her and the 3 children she left Ireland for Manchester to live in a back to back house in a very poor part of Salford. Whilst my grandfather, the middle child who was born in 1894 spoke about his mother he made a point of never mentioning his father or the circumstances which resulted in them moving to England in 1905. Apologies if this post breaks the rules of the board but I have no way of knowing what the truth really is because the family shrouded it all in secrecy for nearly 70 years.
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Sergeant Posts: 4 10-Mar-2010 2:56 PM	I have now found out that Peter Carroll married Catherine Heffernan on 14 July 1883 at the Catholic Cathedral in Limerick. Unfortunately no record of his birth or age is on the certificate but I do know that his wife was 22 at the time and he was about 5 years older which would make his date of birth around 1855 to 1856. Any further help on his service number would be much appreciated My second cousin thinks he might have come from Co Kilkenny and not Limerick or Tipperary.
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Sergeant Posts: 9 11-Mar-2010 10:57 AM	Im not sure if it is of any help but there was a Peter Carroll from Galway who joined the RIC in 1876 at the age of 19, which would make his birth aroun 1857.It might be worth looking in that area for birth cert. Also Carroll is a very popular name here in Kilkenny and there were a number of Carrolls joined the RIC but none of them was Peter,would he have had any other first name?
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C Lawton	Peter Carroll RIC	#7	[url]	[-]
Sergeant Posts: 5 11-Mar-2010 3:39 PM	Aceman67, Thank you very much, it is a puzzle, the age is about right but there are no births registered of a Peter Carrroll whose father's christian name was Philip in or around Galway. His name Peter only appears on all of his children's birth certificates and in fact his eldest son was also called Peter. His marriage certificate is very sparse on information apart from his address, a barracks in Limerick and that his father called Philip was a farmer. The witnesss were his brides family, but I am only using indexed copies, whether the original has more information on is another matter. I know his postings were Garristown and Dublin in the 1890s which is confirmed by the elder two boys birth certificates, although i have never traced my Great Aunt's one, who was according to the 1911 census in the UK was born in Dublin. As Peter MC suggests a trip to Kew to look throuh the indexes and records is probably best and as i live in London is not a great hardship. Once again thanks for the suggestions, which could well be correct and as I visit Co Clare with my wife most years, a trip there would be easy as well.
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