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caplestreetman	Colonel Winter	#41	[url]	[-]
County Inspector Posts: 225 Dec 6 12 3:51 PM	The Malicious Injuries Act How ironic the award of £1000.00 must have seemed to the Squad members who were paid £4.10 s a week, a tradesmans average weekly wage in 1921/22 and it was probably a number of the Squad who were involved in the ambush on Colonel Winter. I have no idea who or how the compensation awards were worked out, Colonel Winters amount of £1000.00 for a hand wound compared to Lt.G.A.Body , of " Q " Co. Auxiliaries award of £180.00 received for a wound to the leg, sustained in the attack on the London and North Western Railway Hotel does not add up, unless it was based on rank and salary. ( for more information on Lt. Body, check out the thread on " Q " Co, under Auxiliary Division R.I.C. ). I also seem to remember a Colonel Carew ? on one of the threads receiving an award for a gun shot wound to the hand in a cafe in Dublin, but am unsure of the amount or thread it was under, I would be interested if anyone can find out the amount , again to compare with Colonel Winters award. CSM Edited 1 time by caplestreetman Dec 6 12 3:55 PM.
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caplestreetman	R.E Registration	#42	[url]	[-]
County Inspector Posts: 225 Dec 7 12 4:46 PM	Although I have been unable to find out any more on the registration mark, you may find the following transport information of interest. It is taken from William Sheehans book - Fighting for Dublin, The British Battle for Dublin, 1919 - 1921, an excellent reference book, in which he tells us about the official British history of the war in Ireland, known as " Record of the Rebellion in Ireland, 1920,21 ( Vol 1V, Part 111 ), which is now preserved in the National Archives in Kew. CHAPTER 111 PERIOD : MAY 1920 TO DECEMBER 1920 ARMOURED CARS Upto December there were two Rolls Royce ( old, but effective ), four Austin, and a few Jeffrey Quad armoured cars. The last named were never of much use, and spares were unobtainable.The Austin cars did excellent work, but by the end of the year 1920 they had all to be scrapped owing to the lack of spare parts. By this time, however, a new type of heavy armoured car had begun to appear, namely the Peerless. They proved themslves to be excellent, easpecially in the streets of Dublin, where they were practically unstoppable. The total number of effective armoured cars in Dublin by the end of 1920 was two Rolls Royce and five Peerless. ( For further expansion , see Chapter 1V, Military Summary ) The system of manning the cars was confusing, although it did work satisfactorily. The Rolls Royce cars were manned by and on the charge of the Armoured Car Company, the Peerless were driven by R.A.S.C.( Royal Army Supply Corps ) drivers and the crews were drawn from the Infantry, the vehicles being on the charge of the R.A.S.C. As the numbers of cars increased, brigade sections of Peerless were formed by 24th and 25th Brigades, the Officer Commanding 5th Armoured Car Company acting as general supervisor. FOR CITY PATROLS AND ESCORT WORK the Peerless cars were invaluable and a great economy in manpower. In spite of the scratch crews, frequently working under a temporary Lance Corporal ( officers could not be spared ), the results were excellent. With the exception of one regrettable incident when an armoured car was captured by rebels, no untoward incident occurred. On the other hand it is fully acknowledged by the rebels that the moral effect of the cars were very considerable. The restraint displayed by the young Commanders and crews was most praiseworthy. Information was received from time to time that the rebels intended to mob and overturn an armoured car but this never occured. ( Standing Orders for Armoured Cars; see Appendix 1V ) CHAPTER 1V PERIOD 1920 TO JULY 1921 ( TRUCE ) MILITARY SUMMARY ARMOURED CARS Previous to October 1920, the armoured cars at Dublin's District,s disposal were two Rolls Royce's, six Austins and three Jeffrey Quads. The last named were useless and clumsy. The Austins succumbed to broken back axles, although their work was generally confined to the town. In October 1920, Peerless armoured cars commenced to arrive in batches, and continued until the end of the year. Additional Rolls Royce cars also arrived, so that by July, 1921, thre were four Peerless sections ( total, 16 cars ) and two Rolls Royce sections of twelve cars at Dublin Districts disposal, except for permanent calls on four by GHQ for escort duties to the Commander in Chief and mails. The Rolls Royce cars were manned by Tank Corps personnel. The Peerless crews were a mixture of cavalary, infantry, and artillery men, with RASC drivers. The work of the armoured cars was beyond all praise. A great amount of escort work was taken off the infantry units by them. Recent accounts by from IRA leaders show that the rebels had a wholesome dread of our armoured cars. One instance quoted was the panic at the Custom House affair in May,1921, caused by the unexpected arrival of a Rolls Royce armoured car. Standing orders for armoured cars were drawn up ( see Appendix 1V ), and although one regretable instance occured, it was only the only case of a car being captured by rebels. A direct attempt was made in 1920, with loss to the attackers. The Peerless car, with an alert crew, was a difficult problem for the rebels to tackle in a city, Nothing short of a TRAM CAR was sufficient to obstruct it. In the country the cars were liable to be damaged or obstructed by road cuts, Armoured cars were therefore not allowed to proceed unaccompanied by at least one other vehicle, which acted as a pilot car. In cases where an armoured car was moving with one or more vehicles, special measures were required to ensure touch was not lost. The above has answered some of my questions and I will in a later post include the report in Appendix 1V, Battalion Standing Orders for Armoured Cars in Ireland which is very enlightening and apt to the attack on Colonel Winter.Although the report deals with armoured vehicles, I am sure the same rules and structure applied to the private motor car/vehicle used by the Chief of Police. I have to say I had not come across the name of a Jeffery Quad before, and I dare say, if one has survived, it would be worth a fortune, ( even though the report states they were useless and clumsy ), can any Transport experts on the site enlighten me ! CSM Edited 2 times by caplestreetman Dec 8 12 6:51 AM.
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Dez		#43	[url]	[-]
District Inspector 1st Class Posts: 82 Dec 12 12 2:00 AM	Most definitely not a transport expert The Jeffery Quad Armoured Car Although thousands of Jeffery Quad four wheel drive trucks were produced and supplied by the American Company of Thomas B. Jeffery to the Allied Armies of WW1, including Russia, only small numbers of Jeffery's were produced as Armoured Cars. The Irish Jeffery's started life in Canada in 1915 when a wealthy Canadian business man, Sir Timothy Eaton financed the production of forty Armoured Cars for use with the Canadian Army (Eaton Motor Machine Gun Battery) and the chassis of the American built Jeffery Quad was chosen. Forty Jeffery Quad chassis were shipped to Canada along with two prototypes which had already been built for the U.S. Army. The construction was carried out by the Canada Cycle and Motor Company Ltd. of Toronto. The Jeffery's arrived in England with the Canadians in 1916, but were never sent to the Western Front. Instead twenty or twenty-two were sent to Ireland and the remainder shipped to India. It would seem that the U.S. Army never took them beyond the prototype stage. The above information comes from a website called Irish Military Online and was submitted by 'vintary' on the 4th May 2011, check this site for photographs. Additional photographs can be found on the Historic Military Vehicle forum. Dez
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caplestreetman		#44	[url]	[-]
County Inspector Posts: 225 Dec 12 12 8:45 AM	Many thanks for posting the information Dez, it is much appreciated CSM
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caplestreetman	A Report on the Intelligence Branch of the Chief of Police from May, 1920 to July, 1921	#45	[url]	[-]
County Inspector Posts: 225 Dec 13 12 4:26 PM	PART 19 1917 saw a great development in the Irish Volunteers, soon to be known as the I.R.A., and drilling was openly practised all over the country. Seven of the eleven members of the Supreme Council of the I.R.B., in this year were known. Whether any of the four honorary co - opted members are included in them, or whether these seven were the divisional centres is uncertain.It is significant, however, to remark that, of the seven members of the Supreme Council known, four occupied leading postions in the Sinn Fein Chief Executive, while the other three were well known Sinn Fein extremists. In 1918, a copy of the constitution of the Irish Republican Brotherhood, revised to date, together with a quantity of arms and explosives, were seized by the Police in the house of a prominent Sinn Feiner in South Londonderry. This copy, published by order of the Supreme Council, was better turned out than heretofore, in the form of a printed octavo pamphlet, with what appears to be a symbolical cover.The general tenor of the Constitution and rules remain unchanged. Two points, however, deserve attention. Para.2 declares that " the Irish Republican Brotherhood shall do its utmost to train and equip its members as a military body for the purpose of securing the independence of Ireland by force of arms; it shall secure the co - operation of all Irish military bodies in the accomplishment of its object, and shall support every movement calculated to advance the cause of Irish National Independence consistent with the preservation of its own integrity. " This is a reference to the existence of the Irish, or Sinn Fein, Volunteers, and a direction to secure control of that body. The other point is the extension of Para. 10, a) and b) The number of divisions is thereby increased to eleven instead of the old seven. The South of England, North of England and Scotland each still form one division. The increase is made by dividing each of the four Provinces of Ireland into two. This would, perhaps, justify the assumption that the number of circles had largely increased, and rendered one Province too much for one centre to properly supervise.The four honorary members are still to be co - opted by the eleven divisional centres, making the total membership of the Supreme Council, therefore, fifteen instead of eleven. As I.R.B., elections are held biennially, and there was no election in 1918, this revised Constitution must be taken as the production of the Supreme Council elected in 1917. In January, 1919, Dail Eireann met for the first time. In August, 1919, the Police chanced to capture a circular of the Supreme Council, dated March, 1919, addressed to each Divisional and County Centre. As all such circulars are to be destroyed immediately after they have been read, such captures are unusual. This paricular one contained the usual March orders for the elections to take place that year, but is far more interesting as defining the relations between the I.R.B., and Dail Eireann. " Presuming ", the circular states - " that misapprehension or anxiety may be existent amongst members of the I.R.B., regarding the individual status of the Organisation and Dail Eireann, the Supreme Council desire to dispel the same by pointing out that - In accordance with the constitution of the organisation, the Supreme Council of the I.R.B.,is, and shall remain, the Government until such time as the objects and aims of the organisation are fully achieved, that is to say, when an Irish Republic is fully and definitely established. And, although An Dail Eireann is regarded as the elected Government of the country, the time has not yet arrived when it can assume the full status of a Government, owing to the presence in Ireland of the armed forces of England. This must not be taken as meaning that the least distrust or difference of opinion exists in either body regarding the relationship of both to each other, in this connection the Supreme Council desires to point out that An Dail Eireann having declared for, and pledged itself to , an Irish Republic as the minimum of what it will accept, has the heartiest approval of the Supreme Council, and will have same as long as it stands for complete seperation from England and the establishment of that Republic. Each body has its own programme to carry out, and can do so without the least interference with the functions of the other, except as far as they strengthen each others position ". It would be difficult, indeed, to put the position in much plainer language. The circular then goes on to claim that " the I.R.B., has achieved more during the past year, viz, 1918, than, perhaps, in any year of its existence in our time, excepting 1916 ". This is a clear allusion to the growth of the I.R.A., and the Organisation is told that it " may feel proud of the fact that the people of Ireland, by declaring for an Irish Republic, have shown adhesion to the principles of the I.R.B. " To be continued. CSM
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caplestreetman	A Report on the Intelligence Branch of the Chief of Police from May, 1920 to July, 1921	#46	[url]	[-]
County Inspector Posts: 225 Dec 18 12 3:45 PM	PART 20 Shortly before the seizure of the above Circular, a prominent Sinn Fein and I.R.A., suspect, who is now one of the bitterest extremists in the present Dail " Cabinet ", is alleged to have boasted that he had got 5,000 men recently to join the I.R.B. In consequence of these disclosures, further efforts were made to guage the increasing strength of the I.R.B., which was believed to be rapidly assuming control of the I.R.A. It was, however, impossible to form any reliable estimate. The Police complained that the Organisation was more secret than ever, and that circles were believed to be meeting under the guise of Sinn Fein and G.A.A.Clubs, and that much was believed to be done at aeridheachts and sports meetings. The I.R.B., has always made a feature of committing as little as possible to paper. A new circle was reported from County Limerick, all the members of which were leading local I.R.A., men, and the extreme section of Sinn Fein in that County was alleged to be acting under the Supreme Council of the I.R.B. A new circle was alleged to have been formed at Blackrock, outside Cork, the members of which were all known Sinn Feiners, and the County Inspector was of opinion that circles existed in the city. From the western riding of this County, Gerald O,Sullivan, who is now Adjutant - General of the I.R.A., was reported to be an I.R.B., man. Efforts were believed to be in progress to revive the organisation in County Sligo. A strong circle appeared to exist in Galway with prominent I.R.A., men and Sinn Feiners, who are members of the present Dail, at its head. Attempts to establish other circles in the County were said to be in progress. The I.R.B., was and still is, extremely active in Glasgow, where it is largely responsible for the illegal trafic in arms. In 1919 it was in progress of re - organisation throughout Scotland, and circles were directed to take the name of some noted patriot or rbel, instead of territorial designations, as heretofore. In Donegal a county centre and county board were said to exist, and the advisability of joining the I.R.B., was discussed in a Sinn Fein Club. Eleven small circles, numerically weak, were reported from Tyrone. In Armagh, a circle, the members of which were also the principal officers of the Local I.R.A., was meeting in a top room in the Sinn Fein Hall. The circles, one at Ballinale, the home of " Commandant " McKeown, were said to be in County Longford, while Frank McGuinness, an important local Sinn Feiner, was alleged to be an I.R.B., man also. It is curious to note that John Milroy, who has long been Sinn Feins leading organiser, was reputed to be endeavouring to establish circles in County Louth. In the days of C.J.Kickham, its greatest divisional centre, Munster had been the stronghold of the I.R.B., as it is that of the I.R.A., at the present time, yet practically no information as to the existence of the first named organisation was forthcoming. The fact was, probably, that the two were so inextricably interwoven that the Police were unable to differentiate between them. Not long after, another circular of the Supreme Council, addressed to each County centre, dated September 1919, fell into the hands of the Police. This declares that - " the Supreme Council of the Irish Republican Brotherhood have had under consideration the portion of the Organisation in reference to recent developments and advances in the political situation, brought about by the work and policy of the I.R.B. The Supreme Council, with a view to the maintenance of our present National strength in our battle with the enemy, now directs that everything possible shall be done by the organisation towards unifying all National forces, standing for an Irish Republic. The position created is due to the policy and activities of the I.R.B., and it is, therefore, the duty of the Organisation to foster the general and united demand now being made for the recognition of an Irish Republic. In order to facilitate this, certain addenda are made in the Constitution of the I.R.B., as drawn up previous to the establishment of the elected public authority, and members are now informed that they may, in accordance with the terms and spirit of their inception declaration, affirm their allegiance to the said public authority when asked to do so either as Soldiers, Servants, or as ordinary Citizens of an Irish Republic. Such declaration of allegiance to the said public authority shall in no way interfere with the activities of the I.R.B., and in no way relieves members of their obligations as Organisation men " The Organisation shall be conducted with the same, if not greater, efficiency as has characterised it heretofore". The motive of this circular is obvious, i.e. , to enable men who are already members of the I.R.B., to be sworn in the I.R.A., and any future Dail Eireann, and so strenghen the hold of the I.R.B., on both these organisations. To give effect to this, clause 20 a) was added to the Constitution, setting forth a form of oath in which allegiance to and support of Dail Eireann was pledged. This in no way replaced the I.R.B., oath, however. To be continued CSM
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caplestreetman	A Report on the Intelligence Branch of the Chief of Police from May, 1920 to July, 1921	#47	[url]	[-]
County Inspector Posts: 225 Dec 26 12 1:30 PM	PART 21 Early in 1921 a copy of the new I.R.B., Constitution dated 1920 was found on a prisoner near Dublin.It differs in only one particular from previous Constitutions, but the difference is a rather important one.Clause 20 a) is added to the Constitution, as stated above, and, in consequence of this , Clause 22 was modified, the President of the Irish Republican Brotherhood no longer claiming to be in fact, as well as by right, the President of the Irish Republic.By the Constitution of 1920 he is limited to directing the working of the Irish Republican Brotherhood. Having regard, however, to the position of affairs now prevailing, this may be a distinction rather than a difference. The Constitution of 1920 is the latest one issued, the new Supreme Council not being due to assemble until the end of 1921. On 1st May, 1921, John Duffy, Commandant of No.4 Battalion, No.3 Brigade, Tipperary I.R.A. ,was killed in a fight with the R.I.C. On his body the Police found a number of copies of a circular issued by the Supreme Council of the I.R.B., dated March, 1921, and directed to all County Centres. This circular contained an order for all elections in the I.R.B., to be completed by 15th October of the current year. It also contained a number of general orders and an appreciation of the future. The circular claims that - " an Ireland regenerated and overwhelmingly Republican has, during the past two years, battled with the enemy to maintain the Republic, and the part played in the struggle by the men of the organisation has been of the most tremendous importance. That the Organisation made the fighting possible and contributed largely to the splendid stand made, and being still made, by the fighting men of Ireland, is unquestionable. It is noted that ares in which most activity prevailed and in which great successes have been achieved have been those in which the members of the Organisation have realised to the full the responsibilities attaching to their membership, as set out in their inception oath, and also in the Constitution of the Organisation, and have acted up to them, not necessarily by bringing great numbers into the Organisation but rather by maintaining a state of efficiency among existing members. The Organisation serves, as it is intended to serve, all the functions of a National rallying centre from which the Republican idea goes forth through the Volunteers, Sinn Fein, Public Boards, Gaelic League, G.A.A., and all parties helping in the cause of the Republic ". Under the heading of Co - ordination, the circular observes - " in the matter of co - ordinating the military work of the Organisation with that of the Irish Volunteers we have been very successful. In response to the orders issued, Organisation men everywhere have shown tact and wisdom in the matter, and to this may be attributed a good deal of the efficiency that has resulted in great military successes in the areas where the fighting has been most intense ". As regards the future, the circular observes that - "it is now fully realised that Ireland can win through physical force methods. In the past this was only seen by the minority who formed the I.R.B. Now it is a general and well justified belief, and the final ending, in complete freedom , of Ireland's struggle, is now rapidly approaching " The circular ends by urging the men of the Organisation to keep the people at large up to this idea. The following is a copy of a captured I.R.A. Document included in the Report on the I.R.B., by Colonel Winter, under the heading - Appendix " A " IRISH REPUBLICAN ARMY BRIGADE HEADQUARTERS BELFAST 27 th December, 1920 The Officers Commanding all Companies Battalions 1 and 11 Belfast Brigade Re -; INTELLIGENCE CORPS. 1) You will at once appoint an officer in your Company to act as Intelligence Officer. Great care must be exercised in the selection of the officer for this most important branch. He should be capable of arranging and of judging the importance of any information that may come to his hand, and, above all, he should be earnest, zealous, and attentive. 2) The officer so appointed shall collect and arrange all information procurable either from the men of his company or from any source whatever regarding :- a) The movements of the military or police forces of the enemy. In particular anything whatsoever relating to proposed movements against the Army or citizens of the Republic. b) Any information of a political character. This is most important as from it the general character of the enemy campaign may be gained. 3) You will at once instruct your men to assist in every way possible the Company Intelligence Officer. They will convey to him at AT ONCE any information they may receive; and they are AT ONCE TO PLACE THEMSELVES IN A POSITION TO SECURE SUCH INFORMATION. For your information and for the guidance of the men a summary of the information required is attached hereto. 4) Your Company Intelligence Officer will furnish reports upon his work at least weekly to the Brigade Director of Intelligence. This is the ordinary routine report and must never under any circumstances be omitted. Where, however, a special report should be made AT ONCE to the Brigade Director of Intelligence. 5) The names and addresses of the Intelligence Officer appointed for your Company shall be furnished to me at once Battalion Commandant INFORMATION REQUIRED REGARDING :- 1) MILITARY Strength and Position of Barracks. Movement to and from Barracks. Numbers and type of all Cars. Numbers and types of Cars used by Officers of importance. Places frequented by Officers of importance. 2) POLICE Barracks and strength. Names and Addresses of R.I.C., men living out of Barracks. Character of Men Movements on and off duty. Numbers, names, description, and if possible photos of the more active members of the enemy force; plain clothes men, spies, etc. Numbers and descriptions of cars used by police. 3) Special Police, Auxiliaries, " Black & Tans " Names and Addresses, Movements etc. of above. 4) POLITICAL All matters relating in any way to politics The movements of enemy politicians. Their names and Addresses. Descriptions of their residences and places of business. With regard to the above matters much information can be picked up in places of business, in places of public resort, and in ordinary everyday intercourse and conversation.Members of the Army should be alert to secure the sometimes very valuable information which may be picked up in this way. Another interesting example of the structure and guidelines of the I.R.A. Intelligence Corps. To be continued CSM Edited 1 time by caplestreetman Mar 22 13 10:02 AM.
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caplestreetman	A Report on the Intelligence Branch of the Chief of Police from May, 1920 to July, 1921	#48	[url]	[-]
County Inspector Posts: 225 Jan 2 13 7:09 PM	PART 22 THE CONCLUSION OF COLONEL WINTERS REPORT The next feature in the situation was the general election which took place in Ireland to give effect to the statute entitled " An Act to provide for the better government of Ireland " This certainly played into the hands of the extremists. The original Dail Eireann, which, elected from the old Parliamentary constituences in 1918, met for the first time in January, 1919, consisted of 69 Sinn Fein extremists, amongst whom the I.R.B., was certainly well represented. They were largely the riff raff of the country, men without means or education. The representation of the country having been largely increased by the Act for its better government, the new Dail Eireann elected under it consists of 124 rabid extremists, of even poorer social standing than their predecessors. The original extremists were again returned, and to them has been added prominent I.R.A., leaders. There was of course, no pretense of freedom of election, the country being totally unfit for anything of that kind. In surrendering his claim to be the "de juro (1) " and " de facto (1) " President of the Irish Republic, the President of the I.R.B., had, therefore, surrendered nothing. He can, as a matter of fact, control both bodies, and this is, briefly the position of the Organisation as it stands to - day. (CSM note - (1) de juro and de facto - according to law, by right, legally, existing in fact, whether legally recognised or not ) That it is still extending in the country is apparently evidenced by the fact that documentary evidence of the existence of fourteen new circles in the East Riding of Galway alone has just been discovered. The County Centre is again a prominent I.R.A., Commandant, and the circles coincide closely with the companies of the I.R.A. The military aspect of the Organisation is much insisted on. Such development is scarcely likely to have been confined to one County. Any opinion as to the more recent, present or future activity and scope of this Secret Society must, of course, be highly speculative. It is not to much, however, to surmise that it has been interwoven with and dominates the I.R.A., and that no I.R.A., Officer attaining any considerable rank unless he is also a member of the I.R.B. This is the Organisation which must be held accountable for the vast majority of the cruel and, at times, but for its existence, inexplicable murders that have been committed both during the present troubles in this country and during those which have disgraced it during the past seventy years. It is at the heart of the present local upheaval in Ireland. In the past it incurred the ban of the Roman Catholic Church, which almost succeeded in annihilating it. An oath - bound Secret Society, open to men of any religious belief or no belief at all, dominated by a Council of fifteen irresponsible persons who claim, and do not hesitate to exercise, the power of life and death over their subordinates, formed to advocate principles at variance with the policy of the Church, it is , undoubtedly, no more popular with that Church to - day than it was in the past, but it is to be feared that it has gone beyond clerical control. The inception oath given at the beginning of this chapter is the oath in use to - day. In the early days of the Organisation, the juror is said to have sworn to yield implicit obedience - " In all things not contrary to the laws of God ". but, if this was ever so, the reservation has disappeared for years part. Many members, doubtless, of the Organisation are inspired with what they believe to be high patriotic ideals, and are persuaded that they are doing their best to serve their country, but the I.R.B., as a whole, IS A DANGEROUS MENACE TO THE BRITISH EMPIRE. THIS IS THE REAL DANGER. ENVOI To my colleagues, in both Civil and Military Departments, who have done much to smooth over the many difficulties that have arisen, to Sir Basil Thomson, Colonel Carter, and the authorities of Scotland Yard, who have so generously assisted, to the Director of Naval Intelligence, who, in the early stages, lent his valuable co - operation, to Mr. Cheesman , of the Crimes Special Branch, to those Officers of the Police Forces, without whose assistance the work would have been impossible, and to those members of the hard - worked Staff who served with loyalty, I take this opportunity of recording an expression of my humble but sincere appreciation and my profoundly grateful thanks. Signed at the bottom - O CSM
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Posts: 1640 Jan 4 13 5:17 PM Inspector-General	Thanks CSM for this very informative thread. Peter Mc
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caplestreetman	A Report on the Intelligence Branch of the Chief of Police from May, 1920 to July, 1921	#50	[url]	[-]
County Inspector Posts: 225 Mar 25 13 2:51 PM	Hello readers to this post. A possible name of one of Colonel Winters agents. It is taken from the diaries of Mark Sturgis - The Last Days of Dublin Castle, Volume 1V 16 February 1921 - 23 July 1921 ( Tuesday 29 March ) One of " O,s " people, a Captain Lease, was murdered this morning in Wicklow Street see note 61. The Captain Lease he refers to was in fact Captain Cecil F.Lees and there is a reference to the Times 30 March 1921 and " O " was Brigadier - General Ormonde Winter. Quote from the above book - The five volumes of Diaries of the leading civil servant Mark Sturgis provide a rich and entertaining source for Anglo - Irish history during the final stages of the Irish revolution between July 1920 and January 1922. They give a vivid insight into relations between politicians, civil servants, military and police as well as supplying a first hand account of dramatic events. Originally designed by Sturgis for contemporary publication, the Diaries have been widely used by scholars since the 1960,s when they became available in the Public Record Office, London. The relevance of the Diaries to today's complex peace process in Ireland makes their publication now particularly apt. un - quote CSM note - I have read the book a number of times ( oh to have a photographic memory ! ) and have to say I learnt a lot about political negotiations, they are never " black & white ", there is always a door or channel left open, but it takes a very brave man who is willing to walk through that door and live with the outcome or consequences, my utmost respect to all those brave men & women. CSM Edited 1 time by caplestreetman Mar 25 13 8:54 PM.
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ballyroughan	The Last Days of Dublin Castle. ( Edited Diaries of Mark Sturgis.)	#51	[url]	[-]
Posts: 565 Mar 25 13 8:29 PM	Hi, C.S.M. Yes your so right, its a good reference and very entertaining, adds colour plus humour to a tragic chapter in Irish history. I particularly like his entry of the 25th February,1921. (On Brigadier General, F.P. Crozier.) Quote :- L'affaire Crozier almost monopolises attention. This beauty who is, I am sure, more truly responsible for indiscipline in the Auxiliaries whom he commanded then anybody else has seized a golden opportunity to resign posing as the upholder of order who was not supported from above ; a glorious martyr!. Poor simple Tudor has been carted again, He often half made up his mind to sack him - pity he didn't quite. There is no doubt he is a perfectly worthless fellow. Un - quote. ( After reading all Crozier's books, i agree with Sturgis's sentiment.)
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caplestreetman	SECRET SERVICE	#52	[url]	[-]
County Inspector Posts: 225 Apr 11 13 5:40 PM	From the excellent post by ballyroughan, ref - " Dame Barbara Cartland - Peter Killed This Morning. Tell Millicent. Love Peter ", we can now add another Secret Service Agents name to the list of Special Agents sent over from London and mentioned in the Report on the Intelligence Branch by Colonel Winter. Terence Hume Langrishe, 1895 - 1973, a friend and colleague of Peter Ames, who went to Dublin together in September, 1920. Peter Ames was killed on what became known as " Bloody Sunday " on 21st November, 1920 Quote from ballyroughans post - " Both men had, finding no work in England, joined an organisation which was being sent to Ireland, or as Pingo informed her, - it had been decided there would be a small group of men sent from England as a special police force, it means I shall be away six months, I shall be earning £600 a year. I will save every penny and then we can get married. " un - quote. "Pingo" was Terence Hume Langrishe. That is the first time I have come across how much the Secret Service Agents were paid, if you look at the comparison of what the Squad were paid it makes interesting reading According to Michael T.Foy in his book " Michael Collins,s Intelligence War " he says - When the Squad started operating full - time, its members had to be permanently available. Crow Street ordered them to leave home and live in groups at safe houses, subsisting on an allowance of £4.10 shillings a week , a tradesman,s weekly wage. The risks were the same for both sides. Ballyroughan has uncovered some important facts which will help us to understand who these Secret Service Agents were. I am a great believer in fate, and there in my opinion is a perfect example, two friends signing up together for dangerous duty in Ireland, the one survives, the other does,nt. Where was Terence Hume Langrishe that fateful day ? CSM
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