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Dez	Use of revolvers	#21	[url]	[-]
District Inspector 1st Class Posts: 82 Jun 12 11 9:47 AM	capelstreetman The revolver and the automatic pistol (more properly the semi-automatic pistol) are two opposites in their mechanical operation. The Webley Mk. VI, six shot revolver which was the main sidearm issued to the Auxiliary and regular police forces, did not have a safety lock to prevent it being fired when loaded and the considerable force of 17 lbs. needed to fire the weapon was considered a safety 'feature'. However the hammer could be manually cocked and in this mode it only took a force of 2 lbs. to pull the trigger (not very much). The only way to keep the weapon reasonably safe, was to load it with five bullets, and have the hammer always resting on an empty chamber. There are quite a few recorded instances of Auxiliary Cadets dropping their weapons and either shooting themselves, or someone close-by. This can only happen if the above safety measure is not adhered to. As for firing the weapon, in an ambush situation, after allowing for the initial shock of realising that an attack was underway and possibly jumping from a vehicle into a ditch, drawing the weapon and firing an aimed shot should not take more than 7 to 10 seconds. This of course makes no allowance for fumbling or dropping the weapon in the ditch. Another safety device unfortunately disregarded by many Auxiliaries was the lanyard which was attached to the butt of the revolver by a small ring and swivel. This could prevent the weapon hitting the ground if dropped and made it easy to recover if dropped. (The relatively complex mechanical differences between revolvers and semi- automatic pistols is best explored on some of the many internet sites dedicated to handguns) Dez
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caplestreetman	Use of revolvers	#22	[url]	[-]
County Inspector Posts: 227 Jun 13 11 8:30 AM	Dez, you have answered my queries perfectly and it has helped me to understand the workings and difference between a revolver and automatic pistol.So it might be fair to say what Bill Munro mentioned in the"Auxiliaries Story" could have occured if the Auxiliary Cadets did not adhere to the safety measures or were inexperienced, perhaps that is what happened.Thanks again Dez for your input, it is much appreciated. CSM
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caplestreetman	Passes	#23	[url]	[-]
County Inspector Posts: 227 Jun 22 11 6:15 PM	Ballyroughan, since posting my query on passes and curfew, I have since received a book by William Sheehan, entitled " Fighting for Dublin" ( The British Battle for Dublin 1919 - 1921 ) It answers all my questions on passes and curfew, it is an excellent research book and deals with key documents from the official British history of the war in Ireland, known as- Record of the Rebellion in Ireland, Vol.1V, Part 111, which is now preserved in the National Archives in Kew I would like to quote the following regarding passes and will post the information on curfew at a later date. APPENDIX 1X Subject Passes 12 June 1921 ( Document date ) In Dublin District - Forces of the Crown 1. No member of any forces of the Crown will be permitted to enter a place occupied by armed troops unless either - a) In possession of a photograph pass stamped partially on the photograph and signed by the DPM,GHQ,APM,Dublin District, or the Castle Commandant. b) Identified at the entrance as a known member of the unit holding the place concerned, or a known member of any other unit of Dublin District. 2,a) A member of the forces of the Crown not included in the above categories will be detained at the entrance until authority is obtained for his admittance from the OC place concerned. b) Forces of the Crown proceeding on duty to any place held by troops should be in possession of orders stamped with their own headquarters stamp, which, when necessary, can be offered as an explanation for requiring to enter place. Such orders will on no account be considered as a pass, but be forwarded to the OC, the place concerned for his information. No more persons of such parties will be permitted to enter than are absolutely necessary to carry out the duty concerned. CIVILIANS 3 a) There are only three types of civilian passes that will be accepted in Dublin District area, and are all photograph passes, namely - Pass for civilians living in barracks Pass for civilians living out of barracks. Special RASC civilian pass for admittance to Royal Barracks only. No more civilian passes should be issued than absolutely necessary, and each one will include the name of the barracks at which they are eligible, and will not be accepted at any other barracks. In isolated cases a pass will be issued for admittance to any barracks in Dublin District area, but this will only be done provided that the Officer Commanding each barracks concerned has previously given his approval to the APM. b) From 23 June inclusive no civilian male or female ( including girls and boys ) will be admitted to a place held by armed troops unless either - i) The person can be identified at the gate as being a regular employee in the place concerned.This identification is only to be done by a responsible representative of the OC barracks concerned, who is known to the Guard Commandr and in touch with the names of dismissed employees. or ii ) The person can produce a photograph pass stamped partially on the photograph and signed by one of the following - APM, Dublin DPM, GHQ Castle Commandant ( for admittance to the Castle ) OC, RASC ( for admittance to Royal Barracks, by south - west gate only ) c ) Casual civilians will be detained at the entrance, and only be permitted to enter by order of the Officer Commanding the place concerned, who will satisfy himself as to their bona fides. He will also ensure that, when admitted, they are not permitted to move about without supervision, and that they depart as soon as their business is complted. Sentry On The Gate READ THIS 1.The rebels possess military and police uniforms and vehicles of all kinds, and will try and get into your barracks disguised in these uniforms.They will probably drive up in a stolen lorry or armoured car dressed as soldiers, or in a stolen military touring car dressed as officers, and expect you to open the gate. When you have once opened the gate they may have you at their mercy. They may try to slip in dressed as soldiers, as if in company with real soldiers. 2. BE ON YOUR GUARD, AND SUSPECT everyone that you do not know, whether military, police, civilian male, female or child, also every kind of vehichle, whether ARMOURED CAR, touring car, Ford car, lorry, cart, military or civilian, must be treated with suspicion. 3.If you do not know a person or party in a vehicle, do not open the gate. Keep them outside until a photographic pass is produced like one of the three attached ( my note - there are no passes attached ). Make sure that the photograph is like the person. If no photographic pass is produced, and the person cannot be identified by you, ask for instructions from your Commander BEFORE OPENING THE GATE. 4. You are in charge of the gate, and you can keep outside anyone that you do not know or suspect, whatever his rank may be. No pass except one of the tree attached will be accepted by you. 8 June 1921 ( Document date ) Well, a very concise set of rules and regulations honed down through many hundreds of years of experience and I would have thought it would be have been nigh on impossible to get through without the right pass, unless of course what you cannot guard against, and that would be human error on behalf of the sentry or guard on duty CSM
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caplestreetman	CURFEW	#24	[url]	[-]
County Inspector Posts: 227 Jun 27 11 8:03 AM	Ballyroughan, the following is from the Record of Rebellion in Ireland, Vol 1V dealing with curfew. CURFEW The establishing of curfew in Dublin had a pacifying effect on the city.On the whole the period of curfew was quiet, and even when sniping commenced during these hours it was only spasmodic and very ineffective. These hours of comparative quiet are invaluable for surprise military operations, for removal of prisoners and other administrative duties. Intelligent use of the curfew restrictions can also be used as progaganda. It is an onerous restriction that effects that effects the whole population and any relaxation is much appreciated. On the other hand an increase of the restrictions for obvious reasons may rouse the public feeling against the perpertrators of the outrages that have caused it. For many months in Dublin the average number of troops required each night to enforce the restrictions was about three officers and 27 other ranks, the vehicles - two 3 - ton lorries, and one armoured car. Extra pressure can be put on as required and has generally sufficient moral effect to allow BLUFF to do the rest. To make curfew restrictions effective an intelligent watch on the situation generally is essential, especially in a large city like Dublin. Holiday times and weekends required special attention. The curfew in Dublin was really enforced by pure BLUFF and a few silent patrols ( RUBBER - SOLED SHOES ) Summary of Curfew Restrictions in DMP area (less "F" Division, Kingstown ) Date 23 February 1920, hours - 12 midnight to 5 am 30 June 1920, 12 midnight to 3 am 22 November 1920, 10 pm to 5 am 4 March 1921, 9 pm to 5 am 21 March 1921, 8 pm to 5 am 3 April 1921, 10 pm to 5 am 14 May 1921, 10.30 pm to 4 am 8 July 1921, 11 pm to 4 am The restrictions were removed on 11 July 1921 Instruction for curfew patrols i) Unauthorised persons found in the streets of Dublin City during curfew hours are liable to arrest, but are not liable to be shot on sight unless seen to be carrying firearms, in which case fire should only be opened if arrest cannot otherwise be effected. ii) Curfew patrols have the right to fire on persons acting in such a manner as to jeopardise the safety of the patrol. iii) In all cases where fire is opened it must be by order only, and strictly limited to what was is necessary to effect the object in view. Proclamation, 12 May, 1921, modified this, as civilians were warned to halt if called on to do so, otherwise they were liable to be shot. Again, an interesting and comprehensive set of rules and regulations and the differing hours of curfew would have curtailed and restricted the movement of the Volunteers, which it was obviously designed to do. The mention of the " silent patrols, wearing rubber - soled shoes" is also very innovative, when it was introduced I am not sure, in the early days in a raid and search operation, the sound of the hob - nailed army issue foot ware would warn the occupants of the property to be searched and give them those few crucial moments to escape or hide any discriminating evidence. I would be interested to hear if anybody has any comments or information on the subject. CSM
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ballyroughan	First "Temporary Constables" ? ( Conditions).	#25	[url]	[-]
Posts: 566 Mar 7 12 10:17 PM	Hi indiansign, You may find of interest ( if you have not seen it already ) on this Forum under :- R.I.C Standing Order's & Regulations, sub Topic Title, "Transport Code of the Royal Irish Constabulary" Temporary Constable (Driver's). Edited 2 times by ballyroughan Mar 10 12 6:22 PM.
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ballyroughan	Temporary Cadet - Application Form. (1) (used from inauguration of Aux-Div 27th July, to 1st Oct 1920.)	#26	[url]	[-]
Posts: 566 Mar 10 12 4:09 PM	Conditions. Temporary Cadets in the R.I.C. Guaranteed appointments for 12 months. Pay £1 per diem with allowances. Uniform of R.I.C.,supplied free, or Service Dress ( Officers ) may be worn without badges of rank. Duties consist in training and co-operating with Police in patrol and defence work. Preferential selections for permanent cadetships in R.I.C. will be given to suitable temporary cadets as vacancies occur. Graded for discipline, disability pensions, allowances, etc., as Sergeants of the Royal Irish Constabulary.* One Month's Leave Every Year on Full Pay ; with Free Warrant Both Ways. Please complete the under - noted particulars :- Name and Unit. Address, Present. Permanent. Age. Height. Physical defect ( if any ) Date of Enlistment, Service. Decorations, Mentions, etc. Rank on Discharge. Occupation Prior to Enlistment. I certify the above particulars are correct, and, if approved, I am willing to accept a Temporary Cadetship in the Royal Irish Constablary, and will serve for a period of at least 6 months. ( Signature ) Date. N.B.:- This form should be completed at once and forwarded to : Major Fleming, Recruiting Officer for R.I.C., Great Scotland Yard, S.W. (Attach Medical Certificate.) * This is not to say a Temporary - Cadet holds the rank of Sergeant, only conditions of, as is the case in permanent Cadetship to the R.I.C. Ref : R.Porter, Photo & Document, Collection. ( Cmd 1618, R.I.C. Outline of Terms on which cadets were engaged etc. ) Copy 1922. Edited 6 times by ballyroughan May 7 13 10:46 PM.
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ballyroughan	Temporary Cadet - Dispersal Terms-1922.	#27	[url]	[-]
Posts: 566 Mar 12 12 8:05 PM	Agreement signed at Dublin Castle on January 18th, 1922, by the Assistant Under - Secretary, representing the Imperial Government, and six members of the Representative Body of the Auxiliary Division, duly accredited for that purpose. Dispersal Terms. Unexpired Contracts. - One pound ( £1 ) per day (or one guinea per day where such is the contracted payment ) to be paid in respect of the unexpired pertion. Lump-sum settlements to be made as soon as possible and in case not later than the 31st March, 1922. In the event of any Cadet accepting further employment under the Crown before before the expiration of his contract period, an appropriate adjustment to be made in the emoluments due in respect of the unexpired portion of his contract. Expired Contracts. - Payment to be made at the rate of one pound ( £1 ) per a day ( or one guinea per day as the case may be ) in respect of the period up to 31st March,1922. This also to apply to contracts terminating before the 31st March, 1922. These arrangements to be regarded as a final settlement covering all emoluments payable both in respect of expired and unexpired contracts and are framed with a view to meeting any possible hardship arising from the promulgation without Government authority of re-engagement of particular Cadets to 31st July, 1922, which was subsequently corrected. An advance of £30 to be made to each Cadet on dispersal, the balance payable under the arrangement for expired contracts to be paid as early as possible, ( not later than the 14th February, 1922). Income tax to be charged according to law. We, the undersigned, on behalf of the members of the Auxiliary Division ( being duly accredited for the purpose ) hereby signify our acceptance of the terms set out above. Dated this 18th day of January, 1922. ( Signed ) WALLIS MUIRHEAD. B.R. DURLACHER. E.M. NICOL E.FLEMING. J.W. HESCROFF. R.H. MALONEY. On behalf of the Imperial Government, I agree to the terms as set out above. Dated this 18th day of January, 1922. (Signed) A.W. COPE, Assistant Under-Secretary to the Lord-Lieutenant. Chief Secretary's Office. Dublin Castle. Ref :C M D. 1618.,1922. R. Porter, Photo & Document, Collection. Edited 3 times by ballyroughan Mar 12 12 9:36 PM.
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Peter Mc RIC	Training and Intelligence Sharing	#28	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1641 Jan 13 13 11:57 PM Inspector-General	Little is recorded as to how the Auxiliary companies kept abreast of developments and undertook strategic planning, given their dispersal throughout Ireland. However the occasional snippet comes to light such as this photograph, taken at Inistiogue in Co. Kilkenny. Here 'K', 'N' and 'O' Company Commanders have been brought together at Woodstock House for a course on 18 February 1921. Given the ongoing investigation into 'K' Company their O/C is represented by the 2i/c Captain Sparrow. 'Inistiogue Company Commanders Course' L-R Capt Thomas Sparrow, (2 i/c) K Coy; Sidney Barber, O/C N Coy; Piers de Havilland, O/C O Coy; and John A M Faraday (2 i/c) O Coy. photo -courtesy Ballyroughan and the Irish Guards Peter Mc
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Dez		#29	[url]	[-]
District Inspector 1st Class Posts: 82 Jan 14 13 2:40 AM	If the date for the Company Commanders Course is correct, none of the people in the photograph held the positions as described on 18/2/21. T. Sparrow was back in the Depot on 14/2/21, P. De Havilland didn't become O.C. of "O" until 28/2/21, likewise S. Barber became C.O. of "N" on the same date and J.A.M. Faraday didn't arrive at "O" until 3/3/21. Excellent photograph.
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Peter Mc RIC		#30	[url]	[-]
Posts: 1641 Jan 14 13 9:08 AM Inspector-General	That's a good point and I've just spotted that de Havilland was O/C K Coy in the period following Latimer's 'removal'. Could this suggest a training course for potential Company Commanders then, if Faraday was still at G? Peter Mc
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